July 25, 2010 -

Some Toronto residents are asking more about Street SPAM Sign Litter and what they may and may not do; what is legal and what may not be.

We are not lawyers and are unable to provide any legal advice. However, here is what we can tell you.

1. Never permit a confrontation to occur.  We regard our work as educational.  This is best done by defusing a confrontation immediately by simply stating "you are a local resident helping to keep your neighbourhood clean, consistent with the intent of the City Council.  Councilor Howard Moscoe can provide additional information". Leave the sign and walk away.

2. The city has a patchwork of regulations in By-Laws that were lobbied into place by advertisers, contractors and others that makes determination of what is OK and what is not difficult at times.

3. TAHS takes the position that all signs posted on public property are discarded litter, and therefore may be approached. Naturally, this is not for everyone, but many volunteers do approach all signs posted
on public property in their neighbourhoods.  Many of these signs are actually posted in the ground  on homeowners property for which the city has a right-of-way - the area between the sidewalk and the curb.
This is a "gray" area because it is the homeowner that plants the grass, waters it, mows it, etc.  It is the advertiser who has commandeered it for his own commercial use.  Resident routinely remove these signs with no problem.  Resident do not mind if a contractor they hired for home repair work posts a "bag sign" on their lawn while the work is underway.  This is a reasonable way for contractors to advertise their business.  This procedure, over the years, has been routinely expanded by advertisers and contractors to allow them to advertise with "bag signs" along ALL such rights-of-way.  That's not what was intended and not what residents want.

4. Technically, it is our understanding that these "bag signs" (plastic bag-like signs stretched over a metal frame and stuck in the ground) do belong to the owner.  For this reason, while we view them as "litter on a stick" because they litter our neighbourhoods, we
suggest community-spirited residents to leave the frame in the ground, remove the bag sign and tie it neatly in a knot around the frame. This advises the owner that they sign has been noticed and not wanted. A removed sign is viewed by advertisers as an opportunity to place a new one in the ground. Some residents have told us they spray paint the phone number on the signs so as not to be readable.  This seems to serve the same purpose.

5. All signs attached to traffic signs and signal lights are illegal.

6. All legal "postering", as it is often termed, must be done on water-soluble materials (paper-not plastic) and affixed with water-soluble glue or a single, home-style staple.  This generally applies to "events" posters such as community plays, music, etc., not to "I Buy Houses" and roofing contractors.  Signs not meeting these criteria are illegal.

7.All self-sticking signs affixed to traffic signs are illegal and difficult to remove.  Many volunteer residents and city BY-Law enforcement spray pain the phone numbers out on these using an aluminum-coloured pain.

8. All signs attached to traffic signal lights, parking meters, street light poles, etc. attached with wire or plastic straps or heavy nails are illegal.  City By-Law enforcement seems to use the technique of cutting these signs in half to indicate to Street SPAM advertisers the signs have been observed and are unwanted.  Some volunteers simply remove them.

Volunteers in this community service generally fall into three categories:  1) activist residents who simply take all the signs down, 2) residents who take the signs down and report the owners to the city (Councilor Moscoe- ) and call or email the owners politely requesting they refrain from this neighbourhood degradation in the future, 3) residents who "knot" the bag signs as mentioned earlier and remove or spray the others.

Organizations in the U.S. such CAUSS, Citizens Against Ugly Street SPAM, are quite active in their communities using similar guidelines.

TAHS

July 22, 2010 -

three times a week I post self-sticking posters on traffic signs and anywhere else I can. I get paid $10 an hour and sometime more. I have to stick as many posters as a\I can in 1 day to get paid. I was rtold they don't care where i put them. I can stick 1000 a day on a good day and get $20 an hour if I do that.

anonymous

(sic)

July 21, 2010 -

Toronto resident N.B. snaps a shot of city worker toiling away at a traffic signal pole at Queen and Spadina, in an effort to clean many layers of Street SPAL Sign Litter placed by thoughtless businesses.

July 20, 2010 -

hi There,

Capital Roofing is one of the junk signs on your site. They aren't only a junk sign, ... He has a fake address and company information, asks for a large deposit ahead of time and takes off. He should be flagged on your site. (sic)

M.M.
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Some of this iinformation cannot be independently confirmed.

Capital Roofing is listed as being at 10 HOWBERT DR
North York, Ontario M9N 3L2

TAHS

July 5, 2010 -

I swear this is true.

A city worker did a terrific job cleaning street light poles and traffic signal poles near my house on Kipling and the very next day there was a junk sign for Driveway Asphalt Sealing glued to the poles. As soon as I find my cell phone with the camera I'll get a picture to send you.

Really Annoyed on Kipling

(Photo on left is similar to the ones Really Annoyed mentions. As soon a R.A. sends an actual photo from her street, it will be posted.)

July 3, 2010 -

Hi there!

I am putting myself out on a limb here to get some advice from you. I am a new small business in Toronto. We don't have an advertising budget but we have someone who has been making us these really nice posters. They are attractive and glossy and have tabs. I see a lot of crap all over the poles down here (i live at queen west and john) and i don't want to add to that... but I can't seem to think of another way for the small out-of-home businesses to get the word out. Do you have any suggestions? The thing is, I would like to be able to suggest these alternates to the other people i know that do plaster the city with flyers.

thanks for your time,

A.F.

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July 4, 2010 -

I think it's simple:

Clean and beautiful city = good

Littered city = bad

Adrian, Scarborough

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July 3, 2010 -

To A.F.

Your karma is good. There are so many questions to this postering dilemma but the answer can not be layer after layer of posters that most people either do not notice or do not like. The streets of Toronto are a disgrace. You spend good money for your spot on a pole that will be, in a moment plastered over by some club event, a roofer, a LAWYER ( good luck) , a real estate agent ( give me a beak) accountant etc,. To me outrageous advertising and a TOTAL shame to their professions. A personal option but investing in a website gives your business CREDIBILITY which posters DO NOT. Yellow pages work but word of mouth ( good value/good service ) rules. A door to door brochure can introduce you to the community and if well done is sure to pay off.

G.W.

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Thank you for your candor.

It is a problem for small and home businesses to get people to notice them and we wish there could be someone out there who could spend time and provide some expertise for small businesses. We know it's a tough marketplace.

However, violating city by-laws and generally adding to the unsightliness of our city is definitely not the way to go. Fact is, Toronto has become so overrun with Street SPAM Sign Litter that it has become largely ineffective.

One small business person told us he has given up on Street SPAM posters attached to poles and traffic signs, partly because it no longer works, and partly because his children are now on his case about littering. One of his kids asked how he can support environment issues while at the same time polluting the streets and neighbourhoods with litter signs. Kids always find a way of telling it like it is or can be.

In any event, he now has a new business card with a nice message on it and delivers it door-to-door. People, he tells us, are very appreciative and he actually gets to talk to prospective buyers of his roofing services. More people, he says, see his car now than ever saw his Litter SIgns.

Thank you for your thoughtful note and we wish you success in your work.

Robert

June 23, 2010 -

Went up Keele, North of Lawrence to ultimate frisbee last night. so sad to see the sorry state of that street w/regards to signage.

Anyhow, one poor pole at Maple Leaf Drive/Keele had 3 signs on it plus 1 on the ground next to it. All got taken down.

nick

June 21 -

I think that I shall never see a sign lovely as a tree.

It takes crappy CO2 from our cars and such

and makes into oxygen to breathe and such.

I think I shall never see a sign lovely as a tree.

Omar Kayak

Scarborough

June 20, 2010 -

Hi There,

I live in a very quiet neighborhood but recently junk posters have been going up around the block. I want to do something about them. My name is D. T. and i live on Edengarth Crt, Toronto.

Regards,

D.T.

Juyne 20, 2010 -

Dear TAHS,

I got Islington/Steeles area covered.

A. K.

June 14, 2010 -

Hello Ville,

Great job on your website! I wanted to alert your readers about a company called Rainbow Songs. They advertise music lessons for toddlers, and they are notorious mass-spammers in North Toronto. By sheer coincidence, I was in the Avenue and Chaplin area today, and I removed their ads from Heath up to Chaplin. I actually live off of Mount Pleasant, and I have a feeling they're going to start spamming Mount Pleasant, Bayview, and Leaside soon (as they do from time to time), so I hope readers in those areas can please remove these ads when you see them!

Many thanks.

Mark

June 9, 2010 -

Those asphalt sealing signs plastered all of over our traffic signs and signal and lights poles are from City Asphalt Sealing, Richmond Hill, Ontario. They stick their junk signs to everything but baby carriages. They don't care about our city. As for the City officials, one does have to wonder. There is no license one can purchase for plastering mail boxes, traffic signs and street lights. My wife called John Romano at the city 416-394-2536, but didn't get very much assurance anything would be done. Why is that?.

Greg on The West Mall

June 9, 2010 -

I just bought 100 signs from a guy and I'm gonna nail the any place I want.

i pick up junk (sic)

June 8, 2010 -

Booty Camp Fitness Poster Blitz

With the weather getting nicer, Booty Camp Fitness wanted to run a poster sniping blitz across Canada.

With a few thousand posters in hand Mango Moose Media blitzed locations in Halifax, Ottawa, Toronto, Saskatoon, Calgary and Edmonton.

Have a poster campaign coming up? Give us a shout!

Attached photos of from the Mongoose website.

Mango Moose Media

1.866.939.7274
647.258.1644 ext. 105

Mango Moose Media Website:

http://www.mangomoose.ca

david@mangomoose.ca.

(Photos provided by Mango Moose Meda - they have no shame)

June 4, 2010 -

Now that I found your website and see others are as pissed off as I am, I'm going to start taking signs down on my block (Davenport, Dupont to Downtown).

In May that same Booty Camp Fitness guy plastered every single utility pole, parking meter, traffic signal and street light on Davenport. The length of the street. There must have been a thousand signs. I shot this one picture today and then pulled the sign down as best I could. What kind of glue and tape do these creepy people use?

Davenport Resident

June 2, 2010 -

I'm putting my signs wherever I dam (sic) well want.

Roofer

May 30, 2010 -

Hello,

Sorry to bother you, but just as my husband and I were going to go out and take down the GI Jane ads, I saw a young man doing the same, and thanked him! Good to see people in the neighbourhood fighting back against this rubbish! But I suspect they will be back, so please alert viewers of your website to keep an eye out for GI Jane ads along Mount Pleasant and along Eglinton in Davisville village.

Thanks again,
Natalie

PICTURED: Glenarden Road

I came across your website and I noticed that Booty Camp and GI Jane are featured and I wanted to report that GI Jane is spamming Mount
Pleasant, from St. Clair to Eglinton. I actually asked the man doing it why he was spoiling the neighbourhood, and nothing but filth came
out of his mouth. He is actually the same guy on your home page giving the finger to the Cleveland tourist. Absolute lowlife, so those who live in the area, take down those ads and complain to these people!

Best,
Natalie
Millwood Road

May 28,2010 -

My neighbours and me are starting to take down those Booty Camp signs plastered all over our Davisville streets. I don't care if they think they have some special right to make a circus of our city. It looks terrible.

Andrew and Marie

Davisville

May 27, 2010 -

Hi TAHS,
Spammers (Unique Roofing, 416-522-3063) never rest, they must put these up at Mt Pleasant/Merton last night . they came down right away. Davisville Ave also remains lovely and spam free from Mt Pleasant right to Cleveland. in any case, doing this fun stuff makes walking my dog much more interesting. almost everyone i've met along the way has been very supportive. to which i reply 'if it bugs you too grab a box cutter and start tearing them down.' my next step is to purchase spray paint to cover phone #s on street sign sticky ads that have really gotten out of control in my neighbourhood lately.dad is an urban planner out in BC. he says street spam is absolutely insane in South Surrey so he is showing your website to his planning co-workers to try and come up with solutions also. cheers,
N.B.

May 12, 2010 -

I cleaned up Davisville from Mt Pleasant all the way to a few blocks North of Eglinton (it becomes Chaplin after Yonge).

I took down all the signage in these pictures.

Ever vigilant,
N.B.

May 10, 2010 -

I came across your website coincidentally and I must say your site is a real shame. You need to get a real hobby or something. As a citizen of toronto I am ashamed that there are people like you who whine about such stupid things. Please do me a favour and get yourself a real job, you and your website contributors.

S. Filali

May 3, 2010-

Call me stupid, and I know 9 million readers of yours will, but does some driveway guy(City Asphalt Sealing, 5 - Belwood Blvd., Concord, Ontario L4K 5H4) really think I'm going to trust my house to someone who advertises on a crappy sign stuck in someone's lawn along the road or glued to my local traffic sign? Every traffic sign and street light on my intersection has one of the bloomin' stickers. That's 8 stinky crappy signs ion just one intersection (Queensway and Kipling).

No way.

If you have to annoy me, why not put a nice business card at my door.

Albee

April 26, 2010 -

Dear TAHS,

Thank you for passing along this email. I have placed a request for staff to inspect this area and clean up the excessive posters that have been put up in these neighbourhoods.

Sincerely,

Dale Duncan

Constituency Assistant
to City Councillor Adam Vaughan
Ward 20, Trinity-Spadina
www.ward20.ca
416-392-4044

April 24, 2010 -

To whom it may concern,

Just came across your website, and I'm glad there are others out there who feel as I do! I would like your readers who live near the Avenue Road corridor south of St. Clair to please ask for the removal of the hundreds of ads glued onto poles by a company called Ruth Rumack Learning Centre. These people have bombarded Avenue Road south of St. Clair, Dupont Street, Bedford Road, Spadina Road, and others in the area with hundreds of ads. The area where I live used to be free of this stuff, but this company plus numerous junk haulers (especially Frank and Daughter) are making this area look horrible. So I would urge all your readers who live in the North Annex and west Rosedale area to please request to Councillors Adam Vaughan and Kyle Rae that resources be devoted to the area to remove this junk more frequently. It is a disgrace that Toronto has so many businesses who advertise in this manner.

Thank you, and great work!

N.A.

April 23, 2010 - N.B. sent these before and after photos of a city worker removing Street SPAM from a light pole. These and other photos of City cleanup can be found at the www.toronto.ca website (URL at left) or click here.

The City of Toronto does a good job with very limited resources. The facts is, not enough residents care about how or street and neighbourhood look. We need to pitch in and remove this street litter as we see it near our own homes. And give the City workers helping us a round of applause.

TAHS

April 23, 2010 -

TAHS,

Every time I see one of those dumb posters with the pull-off tabs I think of a poster offering "free litter".

Al on Wellington Street

April 21, 2010 -

TO: TAHS

acmasbestos has been putting up these huge signs in the Junction and northwards up Keele. They've put a couple of signs on the train bridge across Keele just north of Dundas West as well as along the tall wall that abuts.

I've also seen them down at the base of Parkside (which have been removed).

I've been meaning to grab my wirecutters and go up on the bridge, but I really don't want to get caught trespassing (the rail bridge must be private property).

Any ideas? Is it legal for me to go up?

M.R.
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Dear M.R.,

We are not lawyers, just ordinary Toronto residents like yourself. Generally, Bandit Signs are Street SPAM, regarded as unclaimed trash and may be reomoved by anyone.

Are you able to provide pphotos of these signs, even cell phone photos?

Regarding the railway bridge, we striongly recommend no one step anywhere near rails tracks. The dangers is too great.

Thank you for your support.

Robertay bridge, we strongly recommend no one step anywhere near rails tracks. The dangers is too great.

Thank you for your support.

Robert

April 15, 2010 -

To whom it may concern,

I live in the area of Mount Pleasant and Davisville, and there are two companies that should definitely be exposed on your website. The first is a company called H.S. Painting (416-201-3999). They have no website, but they have been on a tear of spamming Mount Pleasant from St. Clair north to past Davisville, and along many streets in the area such as Belsize. I have been trying to remove as many of their ads as I can whenever I take a walk in the area, but they keep coming back, again and again. I don't want *anyone* to use this company!

The other offender is someone named Eric Muth, who runs an outfit called Computer Genius (www.computergenius.ca).

This individual is also constantly spamming Mount Pleasant, St. Clair, and has recently taken to spamming parts of Chaplin Estates, such as along Chaplin Crescent and Lawton Blvd. This man has no shame, as he places posters in front of Mount Pleasant Cemetery and various churches in the area. Please write to complain to this jerk, there are other respectable computer companies out there, so don't give this person your business!

Keep up the great work!

Best,
B. F.
Davisville Avenue

April 11, 2010-

hi Robert,

I took down a bunch tonight. Most were on Davisville. One on Merton, and a few more on Pape. YouTube Video below :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptzRpujvew

Nick

April 9, 2010 -

Hello,

i'm covering the area around Mt Pleasant/Davisville. I notice some persistent lawn ones keep appearing near Esso but i take 'em down whenever I see them.

cheers,

Nick

April 9, 2010 -

I sure got my money's worth from this week's NOW magazine and it's 'Curtains at Cineforum?' article as it made me aware of your organization. It is nice to know my poster removing exacto knife and I am are no longer alone in the quest for clean streets. Thanks for the company. Dog waking in the Dufferin/Ossington/Bloor to College has helped to keep the 'hood' fairly clear of signs. (While stopping at a pole I might as well multitask.) I look forward to following your blog.

A well guided poster hater.

G.W.

April 6, 2010 -

TAHS,

Is taking down street spam legal?  Are we breaking any laws?

Downtowner

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Dear Downtowner,

Street spam is no different than the any other litter you see strewn along the streets. As a citizen of your community you have every right to pick up trash from the roadside, the right of way or on traffic signs or utility poles. Once the spammer nails that sign to the pole or sticks it in the ground it is classified as abandoned trash and can be removed by anyone who cares enough about the community to do so.

TAHS

March 29, 2010 -

Hi there,

Just wanted to pass on to you and your readers the need to report any presence of the GI Jane posters that are common along Bay, and other financial core streets. They are not only hitting those areas again, but they're spreading to North Toronto, such as along Mount Pleasant. Please ask your readers to contact 311 to remove them, the city *does* remove posters en masse if enough people complain.

Thanks for your website, keep it up!

Cheers,
P.N.
Davisville Village

March 21, 2010 - My wife and I and friends visiting from Guelph went to the Canada Blooms show today at the CNE and were sickened by all those crappy advertising signs all over Lake Shore Blvd. My friends joked that it made Toronto look like Mexico City. We were ashamed.

Stan and Gloria

March 10, 2010

REG HARTT to Toronto Advertising Hall of Shame

"Public morality, thy deadly bane,
By tens of thousands hast thou slain."
--Robert Burns.

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Dear Mr. Hartt,

Thy true feelings appear more in the arena of commerce and community litterbug, not in thy community of neighbours.

Robert

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March 10, 2010

Robert,

The Supreme Court of Canada upheld postering as freedom of speech.

I'll not see you take that freedom down.

We have a common enemy.

It would be better if we worked together to deal with it.

--Reg Hartt

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Dear Mr. Hartt,

Thank you for your contribution to the Blog.

However, you are misinformed. "Freedom of Speech" has certain limitations. For example, shouting "fire" in a movie theater endangers lives,a student shouting profanity at a teacher in school, pasting advertising signs to traffic and signs and street lamps or spray painting a building or sidewalk, for example, are some of many exceptions to to "freedom of speech" found in Toronto city by-laws.

Beyond this, there is a community standard for keeping our city clean and a pleasant place in which to live and work.

Please consider these points when you poster.

Robert

February 28, 2010

M.S. has provided contact information for Mr. Hartt. Please call or email him about the littering of our Toronto neighbourhoods.

Reg Hartt: 416-603-6643. Email: rHartt4363@rogers.com

463 Bathhurst Street.

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February 26, 2010

I am surprised that Reg Hartt and his inane movie posters are not on your hall of shame. This man has been polluting downtown pylons and construction fences for over twenty years that I know of. He bombards the streets with as many posters as he can find space for, often pasting over other posters. Whenever I see ads for his limited repertoire of films, I rip them off but this man is like a cancer, he keeps coming back. I would love to see this stopped from defacing our streets.

M.S.

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Dear Mr./Ms. S,

Thank you for your note.

The Toronto Advertising Hall of Shame (Canadians Against Street SPAM) relies heavily on surveillance and action by concerned Toronto residents such as yourself to report abuses of our city with photos and identification of locations.

Anything you and your neighbours can do to help identify and , more important, remove the abuses, is welcome.

Thank you for your help.

Robert

February 24, 2010

This might not work for everyone but I tried some WD-40 on a bunch of those junk signs stuck on the back of traffic signs on my block. If you leave it on for a few minutes, the junk signs peel off pretty easy.

Mike

Scarborough

January 22, 2010

me and my wife just got back from 10 days in London, England. We were really impressed with the cleanliness of the city. No junk signs for Queen Elizabeth Movers and Buckingham Palace Roofing. How come they can do and we can't?

Marty
Scarborough

January 18, 2010

Hello Ville,

Great work on the web site.

For a few years, I've been taking down the signs in the block north and east of Yonge Street and York Mills Road.

I've made a hook on a stick to help get the signs down, and have posted some details both of the construction of the hook, and of using it at http://hook.NeighboursNews.ca (which includes a pointer to your web site.

Let me know if you see anything I should change.

M.S.

December 22, 2009

Hello there,

I was just hoping you could send the word out to ask everyone who visits your site to please report any sightings of the "Booty Camp" ads that are beginning to crop up again in North Toronto. Yesterday they hit Mount Pleasant south from Merton, and St. Clair over to Yonge. These people are worthless idiots, and everything should be done to make their lives as difficult as possible, and that includes removing their ads as soon as they get placed up.

Thanks, and keep up the good effort!

D.L.

December 5, 2009 -

I've seen some improvement in my neighbourhood. Are things getting better, the same or worse do you thin?

Emily, Scarborough (mother of three)

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Dear Emily,

Some things are better and some are worse and some are the same.

One thing is certain, however, more people have become aware of the need to be constantly vigilant in the battle against Street SPAM and litter. Junk advertisers never tire of pasting signs on our traffic light and street light poles and backs of traffic signs. The only deterrents are the vigilance of people like yourself and recent city efforts to levy fines.

Council Howard Moscoe has been instrumental in this work for the city and the good folks at Municipal Licensing and Standards now understand that they are on the front lines in the battle to keep our neighbourhoods clean, and they are doing an increasing better job.

Thanks, Emily.

Robert

November 21, 2009 -

Dear Friends,

Please excuse the delay for some of you on receiving the signs snips. The response was overwhelming, for which we are all gratified. However, our supply has been exhausted. They were donated by a friend of the Toronto Advertising Hall of Shame city cleanup campaign. We are hoping another generous donor will come forward shortly. We have a waiting list of about 50 and will send the snips about as as receive them. Meanwhile, please do what you can to help remove our city's Street SPAM junk signs and make Toronto a more pleasant place to live and work.

Thank you.

Robert

fromMichael Begley <acezdemo@rogers.com>
toVille Propre De Toronto <torontoadvertisinghallofshame@gmail.com>

dateThu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:06 PM
subjectRe: Demolition Man Litters Kingsway-Lambton Church Area
signed-byrogers.com

I don't know who you are but I really hope you are not spreading bad news about me or my company I Had paid a company to put up sighns for me .they put up 100 sighns through out toronto this was one time about three months ago . this is not a crime and i don't want to be harrassed by you about a couple of sighns and maybe spend your free time on something else other than me

November 10, 2009 -

Hello: I just used S & Sons Moving yesterday. The owner Stefan was sooooo rude to me. He has a major chip on his shoulder. I’m on the internet to see if anyone else had a bad experience and came across your site!
Wow! I guess some of these businesses are so jaded and desperate to make a buck

Teresa

November 10, 2009 -

My kids and I usually take down a sign or two while waiting for their school bus in the morning in our Neighborhood...which is at Dufferin
and Rutherford...(Dufferin Hill) - The Boulevard's have become a breeding ground for these lazy business owners who could easily have a website
in this day and age and get found that way.

Well on the way home tonight my 7 and 5 year old and I started to grab a few signs on the way into our street around 8:30pm. The kids got right into
it and so did dad. We picked up over 14 signs in about 20 minutes.

We're not taking it anymore and I will take them down daily for as long as
they put them up!

Jeff
Vaughan

November 1, 2009 -

I think you guys are awesome for providing this service.

Duke
Kelowna BC

October 28, 2009-

I took these three signs down. Yesterday. All I did was lift the plastic sign off the frame and tied them in a knot around the metal frame so the perps know someone cares and is watching my Princess Margaret street.

Ellie

October 22, 2009 -

I plan to glue as many of my signs around the city as I can and you can't stop me.

Mr. S

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Dear Mr. S,

Stated like a true patriot.

Robert

October 9, 2009 -

So far, I've been able to sustain only minor injuries taking the "garbage" down... I think the snips would be
much safer (& easier!)

We can keep our city clean! ...spreading the word & leading by example counts, and it's surprising how many folks you can get onboard just by having them see you do it.

Lisa

September 29, 2009 -

Hey Ville,

You really sucks, go collect some leafs to clean up the roads, have nothing to do , I can give you some work, but make shure you are a good company , because if you not good doesn’t matter how good they talk about you … shame on you ville, get a real job and try to be nice

Your neighbor

joaosa@rogers.com

September 29, 2009-

Hi, there’s tons of political signs on every corner, do you think our politics signs, are better than any other advertising signs, that you call junk ‘EYESORE”? …
You are going to need a lot of volunteers to clean them up .
All those junk signs are from people who works hard everyday , and don’t live on welfare or any other government institutions.
Please find a job , and let people work, to move the city up…


Your neighbor

joaosa@rogers.com

fromMLS Etobicoke York <MLSEtobicokeYork@toronto.ca>
toVille Propre De Toronto <torontoadvertisinghallofshame@gmail.com>

ccDonald Pardoe <dwpardoe@toronto.ca>

dateWed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:26 PM
subjectRe: S and Son Moving tests city's will to clean up Street SPAM signs
mailed-bytoronto.ca

hide details Sep 23 (10 days ago)

Thank you for your e-mail, this matter is under the jurisdiction of transportation services department. I am copying this e-mail to them for their attention.

Thank you

MLS EY

September 15, 2009 -

I saw that guy too the one on the bike. I took a picture of what he did to that sign and all the others on our streets around Angelesey. How do thet get away with it? Doen'st the city fine them. The phone number is right on the sign.

E.C., on Angelesey

September 14, 2009 -

Is this sign stuff getting any better? It looks worse to me. Looks like every traffic light pole is smeared with those litter sings.

Andrea w., lakeshore

September 13, 2009 -

I never saw this before with this guy on his bike riding up to "stop" signs and standing on the bike an sticking those S and Son moving company signs on the back of the STOP sign and other traffic signs. I asked him about it and he told me it was none of my business. I told him it was illegal and making a mess on my street and he told me he gets paid $10 an hour and he's not going to stop it.

I took these 2 pictures on my cell phone but they are really very good. But you get the idea.

Can't anyone stop this S and Son company?

Angelsey resident

September 9, 2009 -

Here's an update. To date, TAHS has received more than 700 requests for the "snips" offer.

The response to the "snips" offer was wonderful. However, our supply of donated snips has been exhausted. We are hoping a community-0spirited person will step forward to assist us.

If the we are able top secure additional snips, we will send one to you .

Thank you again. Please do what you can to remove Street SPAM.

Robert

September 9, 2009 -

I support what you're doing and I want to help out.

Jack

September 9, 2009 -

Hi!

I am a responsible marketer, and I live at Spadina and the Lakeshore so i see my share of illegal advertisements.

Let's remove those ugly signs!

Lisa

September 8, 2009 -

I would very much appreciate receiving a pair of snips to remove some of the signs which litter the fenced area close to my home.

Grace

September 7, 2009 -

WHAT AN AMAZING IDEA VILLE!! OSHAWA NEEDS A GUY LIKE YOU!!

Dan

September 7, 2009 -

Hi Robert,

just wanted to thank you again for the snips. Today I took down 3 posters (for junk removal) and 1 sign (maid service) on my street. It felt good :)

nick

September 7, 2009 -

I am glad to see that there sites like yours that are trying to rid this world of the junk signs. I'd love to get on of your free pairs of snips as there are some junk signs building in my area and being from a rural community I'd hate to have to see this growing, I think if we can nip it in the bud now we might be able to stop it.

Danny

August 23, 2009 -

Mmy grandfather hates those junk advertisements, he will be glad to get rid of them.

Sincerely,
Terry

August 20, 2009 -

Hi, I often see poster about junk removal, cleaning, driving school, and similar advertisement posted on a street light post around the corner of my street. I would like one of these wire snips to get rid of them.

Keith

August 20, 2009 -

Love it and need to figure out how to volunteer/participate - thanks
for leading by example!

Aran

August 20, 2009 -

Hello,
i'm so glad to see somebody taking on this major issue. i hate all the posters and related stuff that's propped up on my street. i don't have a pickup but will gladly volunteer to take stuff down in my area (Mount Pleasant/Davisville).

Please send the wire snips to:

Nicolas

August 12, 2009 - The Bay Corridor Community Association is very interested in participating. Our area is bounded by College Street, Yonge Street, Charles Street and Queen’s Park.

Al Rezoski
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Dear Mr. Rezoski:

Thank you for your inquiry.

The Toronto Advertising Hall of Shame ( soon to be renamed Torontonians Against Street SPAM (TASS) is a 100 percent volunteer effort to widen interest in keeping our city clean and free from ugly Street SPAM that presents our city in a far less better light than any of us prefer.

It's all part of a North America-wide effort to clean our neighbourhoods and set a good example for family, businesses and visitors.

TAHS does not yet have a formal structure has relied heavily on verifiable information from residents to bring to the attention our elected representatives and residents citywide of the the role they can play in this process of ridding our streets of what is now termed Street SPAM, Vertical Litter, Litter on a Stick, Bandit Signs.  Nearly all are illegal and plastered by advertising agencies and other commercial enterprises deliberately.  They have no remorse because they are aware that By Law enforcement is lax.

What the Bay Corridor Community Association can do:

1. Write a firm and cordial letter to Councillor Howard Moscoe who oversees city Municipal Licensing and Standards.  Mr. Moscoe has been extremely helpful in this process but needs to know more residents and civic-minded organizations are concerned.

2.Organize Saturday street patrols.  These are just two-person teams who walk a specified street and remove signs attached to traffic signs, signal lights and street light poles with wire or nylon straps.  It's very easy to do  We have 10-year-olds and seniors tell they can do it.  Each team neatly spray paints the phone numbers out on all junk signs glued to traffic signal and light poles.  Please be careful with this process as it is important that our work not be perceived as an act of vandalism (which it is not).  Spray only the phone numbers, event dates and location.  This is designed to let SPAMMERS know we are concerned and will render their ads valueless.  The city uses this same technique.

3. Use a cell phone camera to take a photo of the offending signs and email the photos to us here at this address for posting on the website.  The website is updated daily and is monitored by ML&S.

4. Urge members of your group to join in.  This is a residents' responsibility as well as a city one. 

5. If teams are ever questioned about their work, the response should simply be: "We are helping to enforce the city the By Law, thank you."  Never enter into a discussion with anyone you feel opposes the work. Never argue.  Keep a cell phone hnady if you need help.

6. Ask your members to call companies whose phone numbers always appear on the Street SPAM signs and simply say:  "Good Day.  I'm calling from the Bay Corridor Community Association to let you know we are removing as many of your signs as possible and ask your cooperation in helping  to keep our neighbourhood clean by not posting signs in the future.  Thank you."  Hang up.  If an email or website address is provided, use it to email the same message.

Thank you so much Al for your interest. 

August 10, 2009 - Me and my wife went to the Oakville Jazz Festival Sunday, just after all that rain stopped, and aside from the really good music, we noticed walking down the streets how free of junk signs it all is. I know Oakville is small compared toToronto, but sure looks like they got the message about that junk signs glued to all the light poles and traffic signs are not wanted. And I guess you can't ever depend on businesses to always do the right thing so I guess Oakville has good enforcement. I wish Toronto could do the same.

Jazz fan.

July 22, 2009 - Have you seen how raunchy Sheppard is getting. Even just the little stretch of Sheppard between Weston Road and the Tim Hortons looks horrible.

In need of a Good Shepherd

July 19, 2009

Is it my imagination or are there more junk signs than ever littering our neighbourhoods?

S.P
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Dear S.P.,

Sure looks like mote signs, doesn't it. It may have something to do with the increased brazenness and disregard for our communities and what one writer suggested is an increase in the attitude that Street SPAM and litter on traffic signs advertising, regardless of how ugly it is, is somehow justified.

TAHS

July 7, 2009

I can't remember what these posters are for. I think it's for asbestos abatement and they're plastered all over Bloor Street/Bloor West Village, on mail boxes, traffic signal boxes, newspaper vending machines, traffic signal and lighting poles. It looks so ugly and cheap.

Besides, would anyone really want their home asbestos abated by people who litter the streets?

Up to here with it!

July 1, 2009

Me and my wife and kids took a drive up to Kleinberg for Canada Day. We went up route 27 from Eglinton Avenue. The road is really an eyesore. There must be thousands of signs glued to traffic lights and street signs and stuck in the road everywhere. Then when we got to Kleinberg, it was beautiful I know it's just a small town but they enforce their laws and Toronto doesn't.

Route 27 sucks guy

June 26, 2009

Has anyone seen the way Lawrence Avenue West has gone downhill? It's been signed and postered all over. Just look at the intersection of Dufferin and Lawrence as one example. Doesn't anyone care?

Andria
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Dear Andria,

Lots of people care, but don't think too seriously about each day. The people doing the postering don't care at all. They simply see our city as a place to litter.

TAHS

June 20, 2009 -

My wife and me went to see Jersey Boys last night. Great show and the theatre there is great. But we hadn't been to North York in a long time and couldn't believe all the junk glued to everything on the street. It looked really bad. All over street signs, mail boxes, light poles, traffic signs. It's a great part of the city. There was even an outdoor festival about the environment there with music and tents and booths with good information. But what a mess walking down the streets.

JB Fan

June 11, 2009 -

I saw this listing on craigslist. I guess this is how those guys who litter my neighbourhood recruit posters.

Sammy downtown

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Reliable Distributor Needed - $20+/Hr (Greater Toronto Area)

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Reply to: job-e7n5z-1216091351@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
Date: 2009-06-11, 8:41AM EDT

Training & Transportation provided.

Serious Inquiry Only, please submit the following information:

Full Name:
Telephone Number:
Postal Code: (We will need your address when you start the job, but for your safety, we won't ask for it over craigslist)
Availability:

You will be handing out flyers door-to-door or posting up flyers on the street.
You must be reliable, that means punctual and honest.
We pay by number of flyers being distributed, which means the faster you hand them out, the more you earn, average earning of about $20/hour.

You would need a backpack (to put flyers in) and comfortable shoes (as there will be lots of walking). It's a great job for the summer to make some extra cash!

Location: Greater Toronto Area
Compensation: $20+/hour
This is a part-time job.
This is a contract job.
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

PostingID: 1216091351

June 6, 2009 - My wife ia a postal worker and is pretty good at estimating stuff on the streets and she thinks the number of Booty Fitness Camp signs stuck to traffic signs and street lights is much closer to 5,000 signs.

Greg downtown

June 4, 2009 -

Have you seen all the signs stuck in park grounds alongside Lakeshore Blvd? What's with this? I thought it was illegal to post signs on park property.

Sandie

May 31, 2009 -

I just got from a short vacation trip to New York with my wife where we saw a couple of shows and walked around allot. I was amazed how few traffic signals and light poles were messed up with those junk signs stuck to them. The whole Times Square and theatre area was so clean and almost none of the poster stuff. Toronto is much worse.

Randy and Ann

May 21, 2009 -

Wow am i glad to find you!!!!
I have been taking down fliers for years and absolutley HATE them...by the way did you know that you can complain to Astro Media at 1-866-827-8725 re the bus shelters ...I have also just contacted my city councillor regarding ward 33 ...don mills and sheppard...
I am ready to volunteer...just tell me what to do and where do i get my snippers!

M in North York

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Dear M in North York,

Your snippers are on the way.

Ville

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May 21, 2009 -

Hello everyone

I noticed on your blog that you like peoples name and phone numbers...ok well here it goes...this was what i did today!

the signs that say PARDON and CHEAP DIVORCE...are everywhere in my neighborhood...hydro boxes...bus shelters...telephone poles...WHAT A MESS...so everyday on my home i take them down...and when i get home i call and complain...they put them up again the next day....so today i called my local councilwoman at city hall and she forwarded my complaint to the municpal licencing and standards division...I also now know the owners name MOHAMED BATEN 705 Lawrence Ave West Unit #205 - his phone number is 416-849-4200...PLEASE EVERYONE CALL AND COMPLAIN....the garbage in my neighborhood is discusting...oh and i have spoken to Mohamed Baten ...he says Toronto is NOT HIS CITY so he does not care! well i am going to make him care! this city use to be clean and people like him are slowliy turning this city into a dump ...these signs are EVERYWHERE in Toronto and he is responsible for many different ones including the ugly black and yellow ...CHEAP DIVORCE and PARDON flyers...well he is not going to destroy MY CITY without a fight!

M in North York

May 19, 2009

Hello again Ville,

Many thanks for obtaining the information on the Best Body/Booty Camp people.

I also have a new entry for your junk hauling list, and I'm surprised it isn't already listed: Frank and Daughter.

This company is well-known in north Toronto for plastering ads everywhere on poles on a regular basis, starting around March and into October. They're a nasty bunch, and I no longer contact them directly as I got nothing but obscenities from them when I asked them politely to stop spamming my area.

Here is the person in charge:

Frank Iacobucci
30 Dupont St
Toronto, ON M5R 1V2
(416) 921-9711

I would also like you to please alert your readers to another notorious spammer, the "Eric Muth, Computer Genius" company that is constantly spamming the area from north Rosedale to Davisville Village, in between Mount Pleasant and Avenue Road. His number is a Bell cell number, so his address is unavailable for free. Nonetheless, I feel he should be added to your "hall of shame" as he plasters ads in front of churches and Mount Pleasant Cemetery itself. Classy.
All the best,

E. B.

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Dear E.B.

Thank you for your support and for reporting another Toronto Street SPAMMER.

TAHS encourages readers to send simple photos from a cell phone camera, for example, to verify our postings.

Keep up the good work EB

Ville

May 3, 2008

College Pro Painters is nailing their signs to utility poles all over The Kingsway. The one inn the picture is at The Kingsway and Prince Edward. They even go on my neighbour's property to nail a junk sign to a pole in his yard.

Do they have any scruples?

I'm gonna start ripping them down.

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Dear Ripper,

Go for it. These folks litter neighbourhoods all over the city and don't seem to care.

Ville

Hello Ville,
 
I work in the financial district and I've noticed that once again, the Best Body/Booty Camp outfit is "spamming"  the financial core with its posters (sorry, I don't have a camera). It's been my experience that they undertake city-wide spam blitzes about once a month, and I would not be surprised if they've plastered other areas that they have in the past:
 
- Eglinton and St. Clair, west from Mount Pleasant through to Avenue Road
- Bloor west from Dundas/Roncesvalles into Bloor West Village
- Greektown along the Danforth
- Bloor through Yorkville, and into the Annex
- Queen Street through the Beach(es) area
 
If you can, please send out the call to your volunteers to pester the city, their councillors, their BIAs, whomever, to get this trash removed *ASAP* wherever it is found.
 
My question is, who are these Best Body people? And can something be done about them? When I see their ads I write to the MLS Toronto East-York site, local BIAs and councillors and tell them to get these ads removed as soon as possible. Is this the right strategy to take, in your experience?
 
I often do the same for those Think In Spanish and Essay Experts jerks, who along with Best Body and the Guvernment night club, are probably the four worst street spam offenders in the city.
 
I applaud you and your efforts, and will try to help you in any way I can to rid this city of this scourge, as Toronto seems to be unique in hosting these types of businesses who show no pride and respect towards the city whatsoever.
 
Thank you, and keep up the fight!
 
Sincerely,

E. B.

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Dear E.B.,

Makes you wonder sometimes, doesn't it. Trashing our city doesn't make sense for a business, yet they do it. Creepy, isn't it?

Booty Camp Fitness Inc. appears to be headquartered in Vancouver.

Carolyn Carson: 613-290-0734carolyn@bootycampfitness.com
230 Queens Quay W Suite 829
Toronto, Ontario M5J 2Y7
Fax: 866.285.3223

Call to complain: Best Body Boot Camp
Daniela Nahas and Roger Nahas
416.519.2643
info@bestbodybootcamp.com
Fax: 866.285.3223

April 12, 2009

Damn! There must be 30 of these miserable signs just on my block!

I hate it.

Lawn cleaner-upper.

April 2, 2009

TAHS,

What is more annoying?.....the litter of bandit signs in an established neighborhood, or the bass of some "ones" stereo that rattles your windows? Is it one of those things where they spent the $150, so any noise they produce is justified? Kinda like you spent $100 on junk signs, so the rest of the world has to endure them littering their yard? You pay taxes on the mall or city park so you can use it as a bulletin board?.

If you aren't mowing the grass, you have no business planting tomatoes or bandit signs.

Why feel the need to invade the general public in hopes of snaring the one in a thousand people that will consider doing business with junk sign businesses?

Edna

April 1, 2009

How come roofing contractors seem to have the most Street Spam signs on your website?

Nailed to a tree

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Dear Nailed,

Good question. Roofing contractors appear to be the single largest category, though not the largest abusers, of Street SPAM. (City Asphalt Sealing and S & Son Moving appear to be the largest abusers of our neighbourhoods). Contractors should have a better way of attracting business. Surely, littering can't do much for contractor reputation.

If anyone has helpful marketing ideas for contractors, pass them along to this forum or call contractors currently littering your neighbourhoods.

Jason du Ville

March 20, 2009

Maybe it's just me and my family, but it seems to me that there's lots of talk about keeping the city environmentally sound, except when it comes to business. There is seems anything goes. All this sign litter in our streets is just another example of not doing the right thing if someone can make a buck at it. Doesn't matter if they are a big or small business, they will litter the streets with there signs. Makes my kids think graffiti is officially approved by someone.

Lakeshore home owner.

February 25, 2009

Eric Sngh, owner of the Street SPAM pictured respondes with the following advice for concerned residents: "get a life."

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from eric singh <sandhu100@hotmail.com>
date Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Eric Singh

February 24, 2009

Dear TAHS,

Those guys are making my home around Scarborough look like a third-world city with all that stuff glued to trafficm signs. Just look all around Warden Avenue.

Warden

February 12, 2009

chris testa to me

dear "ville"

a friend of mine showed me your website the other day and it was great for a laugh,i don't agree with this form of advertising either but you have to look at it from all angles. to say these people are getting away with free advertising is just crazy. I use to work for a company who used these signs and they cost about $3 a piece and companies would buy anywhere from 100 to 1000 pieces(you do the math)then comes the cost of the labour to put them up peoples time is not cheap. if i had to guess i would say a campaign of 100 signs would cost around $750-$1000 installed,similar to a small flyer campaign If anything these people spend more to overcompensate for assholes like yourself who remove their signs. Many of these signs come from small businesses cutting their teeth and need every advantage possible to survive amongst huge corporations. To add to their troubles assholes like you are trying to drag their names through the mud in your little .org .I'm guessing your on the other side of the deal though,probably some silver spoon fed fuck who lives in a fancy house and never put in a decent days work in his life. You people who take matters into your own hands only make the situation worse,You rip signs in half and throw them on the floor(littering),and you spray-paint adds and the public property there attached to in the process(graffiti)

I don't know if you tried but maybe contacting these companies and warning them their signs will be removed and returning their signs would create a different outcome and a better relationship. Personally if someone did that for me i would be more the happy to look at another way of advertising(but then again you wouldn't be able to use your spray paint and garden tools so i see your dilemma)

anyway like i say there's two sides to every story

Grow Up

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Dear Chris Testa:

Thank you for your response. Please be aware that TAHS is a community-based voice; it is not a single individual. So, your comment demonstrates contempt for the community.

Ville

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February 12, 2009

I had no idea Street SPAM and vertical litter supporters used such poor language. Imagine if their kids read this posting. Yikes.

Teacher in Richmond Hill

February 6, 2009 - I have a small moving company in Scarborough and I only advertise in the Yellow Pages and sometimes in a community newspaper, but I've been seeing more and more of those yellow posters with red writing on them for S and Son Moving and I'm really p_ _ _ed off because they don't pay for advertising because they advertise on city traffic signs that me and lots of other companies pay for in our taxes. How come no one does anything about it. I mean their phone umber and website is printed right on the posters stuck to traffic signs all over the city. I bet there's 100,000 of them. Can't we fine them?

P _ _ _ ed off

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Dear P _ _ _ ed off,

You've clearly identified one of the two worse Street SPAMMERS in Toronto. Contact city Councillor Howard Moscoe councillor_moscoe@toronto.ca to complain. Call your fellow moving business colleagues and ask them to to call Mr. S and his Son and the city to take some action on this Street SPAM.

Ville

December 12, 2009 - I pulled a junk sign down from a traffic light pole with my garden soil tiller I bought at RONA because it was really high up on the pole but this garden tool works great and it's easy to use. But the sign I think is not cardboard. It feels like plastic. What is this stuff and can it be recycled?

Hoe in Scarborough
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Dear Garden Hoe in Scarborough,

Most of the signs you refer to are made of a product often called "coroplast" or a plastic product similar to it. These signs are not easily recycled and do not generally biodegrade well in landfills. In short, they are a problem for municipalities to dispose of.

The garden tool use used is excellent for this purpose.

Thanks for your thoughtfulness in ridding Toronto of Street SPAM.

Ville

December 27, 2008

"Street SPAM". That's exactly what all this crap is. Sorry to use the word crap, but that's what it is. Makes my street look like the marketplace in my homeland city of Mumbai.

Jeevay in Scarborough

November 9, 2008

Dear TAHS,

I wish I had a business or a home business I could advertise on the STOP signs in my neighbourhood. I think its good value for my city taxes I pay.

Mr. STOP
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Dear Mr. STOP,

Suppose there were no STOP signs, no traffic signs, no traffic light and street light poles in Toronto, where would you advertise? Do you believe advertising on traffic signs represents the quality work you provide?

Ville

September 25, 2008

Dear TAHS:

Since tripping over this website about a week ago, I've become more aware of just how dirty and cluttered our city has become. I think it's a sign of urban decay just like US cities. Who do you think is the worst "junk sign" offender?

Scarborough Bill
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Dear Bill,

If you just go on what you see around your neighbourhood, there's no question about the increase in junk signs trashing the streets, lawns, and parks. And, Scarborough, according to observations from residents, is by far the worst in the city.

Who is the worst junk sign polluter? With some many companies and individuals vying for the coveted title of worst in the city, you'd think it would be a tough choice, but it's not. Last year, residents chose City Asphalt Sealing, S and Son Moving, Avenue Road Advertising, and Alpine Roofing as the worst city offenders. Voting has now started for the 2008 Toronto Advertising Hall of Shame Eyesore Junk Sign Polluter of the Year competition (TAHSEJSPY. Voting is simple and the ballot instructions can be found by clicking here.

So far, and far and away, City Asphalt Sealing of Richmond Hill is in the lead with an estimated 50,000 illegal eyesore junk signs postered/plastered to the backside of traffic signs, traffic signal poles, postal boxes throughout the city. The city doesn't seem to enforce the sign by-laws very effectively and City Asphalt knows it well. Imagine if this company were fined just $5.00 for each violation. That's $250,000!

Please take a moment to contact your city councillor and Councillor Howard Moscoe councillor_moscoe@toronto.ca to complain. Councillor Moscoe oversees the Municipal Licensing and Standards department and has been doing a good job despite overwhelming challenges and obstructions from lobbying lawyers.

Ville

January 12, 2009 - Since Mr. Vectus' original comments, Vectus has expanded its Street SPAM to include what now appears to be more than an estimated thousand street SPAM signs defaced. In some parts of the city, Vectus Street SPAM signs are being covered over my those omnipresent orange S and Son Moving Street SPAM signs. Is this a Street SPAM war?

Ville

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September 19, 2008

You are very, very welcome eyesore Ville

Ville, Your eyesore junk web-site does not represent Canadians and Torontonians in particular, so you have no right to speak for Canadians and Torontonians in particular. If you can design a better sign, please do so and if you personaly don't like the colours, we can change it just for you Ville. You know, just a piece of thought, at fist people did not like Pablo Picasso too. There is a lot of people who like signs because it is a convinient way to find needed information. And who are you Villie personaly to say that all Canadians do not like signs. Though there is a lot of Canadians, who hate junk eyesore e-mails from annoying organisations like yours. ...ohh and I give you, Vilie, permittion to post our feedback on your annoying eyesore web-site. (sic)

Vectus
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Dear Vectus,

Thank you for your feedback and for your thoughts. Comparing Picasso to eyesore junk signs glued to traffic light poles would not have occurred to many.

Ville

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September 16, 2008 -Vectus Transportation Services 7:44 PM

First of all your ability to count is not the best one, which questions your organization: "hundreds of traffic signal poles and other traffic signs postered" ?! There is no law which stats that we as a company can not advertise. We can see that you hate Canada and Toronto in particular because YOU are against its economy. Why do YOU think you have health care, police, firefighters, and other free services? Well let me explain it to YOU: we as small business company, and others like us, pay TAXES from all the services we provide!

Second off all the phone number YOU have posted on YOUR website and e-mails that YOU sent to other people is violation of my rights due to the fact that it is a privet cell phone number and not registered under the company. I as an individual can post my privet info but its illegal to be posted by any other individual without my consent. I will consult with my lawyer and we will definitely take legal actions against YOU personally in court of law. You have until next week, September, 23, 2008, to take off your discriminative writing against our company and me as a individual from all the sites you have posted. This is not a matter of freedom of speech due to the fact that YOU are violating my right as a citizen of CANADA!

Third off all, your statement: "Is postering signs on public property the best way to demonstrate the care movers will take with your valuables?" does not make any sense. All our clients were satisfied with the way we do business, and we never received any complains about damaged goods. The statement is complete LIES and your actions well not be tolerated. This is not only annoying but discriminative. Unless it becomes illegal to advertise and bust economy of Toronto we should not receive such mails nor any one else. The real eyesore is your incompetence... Thank you for your time eyesore individual!(sic)

Vectus
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Dear Vectus,

All Torontonians and Canadians are indebted to your your eyesore junk signs for our health care, police and fire services.

Ville